denoland/celld · #3

`celld diagnose` could verify bucket consistency guarantees (CAS + read-after-write) as a preflight

Motivation. Correct ownership in celld reduces entirely to the object store honoring conditional writes (compare-and-swap on lease records) and read-after-write visibility. Real AWS S3 and R2 are fine, but the S3-compatible ecosystem is uneven: some gateways and older MinIO/SeaweedFS configurations accept If-Match/If-None-Match and silently ignore them. On such a store, two nodes can both believe they own a cell, and the failure shows up later as split-brain data loss rather than at setup time.

Idea. Add a preflight to celld diagnose (or a dedicated celld preflight --bucket ...) that proves the guarantees empirically against a scratch prefix:

  1. Write an object, then issue two conditional overwrites with the same precondition; exactly one must succeed.
  2. Confirm the loser's write is not visible (no lost-update anomaly).
  3. Confirm read-after-write on a fresh key.
  4. Print a pass/fail matrix with the measured round-trip latency, since lease timing budgets depend on it.

A hard failure would name the store's gap directly ("this endpoint ignores If-Match; celld cannot run safely here"), which matches the repo's "loud failure over silent gap" policy. No patch attached per contribution policy; happy to elaborate on edge cases if useful.

Comments

polvi 2mo ago

Note for anyone picking this up: R2 and S3 both document conditional-write support, so the preflight's value is mostly for self-hosted S3-compatibles (MinIO, SeaweedFS, Ceph RGW, garage) where support varies by version and configuration.

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